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Monday, January 02, 2006

There Is No 9 to 5—Your Life From 8 A.M. to 7 P.M.

 
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In, But Not Of : A Guide to Christian Ambition
By Hugh Hewitt
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Up to this point we have discussed the need for followers of Jesus to seek and prepare for positions of influence and power as discussed in Hugh Hewitt’s great little book, In, But Not Of.

Now a reminder: neither Mr. Hewitt or I believe all or even the majority of followers should choose this path, but we firmly believe that bright, articulate, spiritually sensitive young adults should not shy away from this career path.

This post will be a summary of Part III: There Is No 9 to 5—Your Life From 8 A.M. to 7 P.M. (chapters 11—30)
The next post will summarize Part IV: Your Life From 7 P.M. to 8 A.M.


If you’re a pastor…stay out of politics (Chapter 11)
Period.
If you think you’re called to be a pastor, great!
Now stay out of politics.
If you think you can weave a life of ministry and politics, you can’t.
Don’t even try.
Your church will be better served if you don’t.
So choose now: the world of the church or the world of the world.
And here’s why: ministers have zero credibility in discussions of public policy.

Yes I know it wasn’t always so.
Yes I know it’s not fair.
But it is true.

Pastors have credibility in their churches, so focus your energy there.


Jobs (Chapter 13)
I have worked many jobs, Pac Bell (15 years), Nordstrom (2) Verizon Wireless (6), MTI (2) and CellCo Club (1) and various short-term consulting jobs. My volunteer work includes a presidential campaign, the Red Cross, and two law enforcement agencies plus teaching or speaking at pastoral training schools, retreats, rescue missions, recovery homes and places I’ve forgotten. Even produced a few TV shows on our local public access station here in Whittier.

But I was only married to Lilia.

I never held a job or position longer than three years.
Usually just two.
If I picked the wrong job, I looked for another.
If I got bored, I’d looked for another position.
If I needed more money, I’d look around again.
In fact, in the 15 years I worked at Pac Bell…I quit three times!
I was hired back because I left on good terms, didn’t trash the company or my bosses and did a good job while there.
I’d leave jobs or companies for a closer commute, to learn a new skill or because I respected the person hiring me.

A job is not a life sentence.
If your stomach hurts Sunday evenings, find another job.
If you have a horrible boss, stick it out as long as possible, learn what you can and find another job. Resumes with many jobs will sometimes be more interesting than just one.

Do good work,
Leave on good terms.
Don’t steal from your employer.
Don’t date a fellow employee.
And keep track of your accomplishments (no one else will).


You Can Be Replaced (Chapter 16)
Unless you own the company, you can be replaced. You’re not that important or vital to the organization. Of all the ugly character traits a follower may posses pride is the worst. Remember your place in the world and at your job. You’ll be less annoying to everyone.


Learn to Say “I Don’t Know” (Chapter 17)
Speaking of pride, if saying I’m sorry is hard for some of us, saying “I don’t know” is nearly impossible. Try this; say, “I don’t know” when you don’t know. Even add, “I have no idea” once in awhile for good measure. It’ll do your soul some good.

Usually, folks are eager to share what they know with you. And as an added bonus, when you demonstrate genuine interest, you’ve endeared yourself to them. I can’t tell you how many doors were opened to me simply because I said, “I don’t know. Can you tell me about that?”


Say Please, Say Thank You (Chapter 18)
Buy that book and learn manners. For only $4.99 you get a hardback book that will give you a lifetime of benefits.


Help Others Succeed (Chapter 19)
If you want to be irreplaceable at your company or in life…help others succeed. Success is not a zero-sum game. The more you help others achieve theirs, the more there is for everyone. Yes I know, some ingrates will take advantage of this, but in the end you’ll win.


If you don’ t know the weak points of your position, you don’t know your position (Chapter 20)


Know Whom You Owe and Be Grateful (Chapters 22—23)
I keep nice stationery and stamps in my bag. When I recall something a person did for me (an encouraging word, a career tip, a book suggestion) I send a quick note of thanks. Two benefits: I remember I didn’t get here all on my own and second, it really brightens their day.

Think of all the folks that have helped you get to where you are: a college prof, a high-school teacher, a mentor, and an old boss. Drop them a quick “thank-you.” You’ll be amazed at the good will it will generate. Oh, by the way, be sincere. This is not a gimmicky thing.


Say Hello and Be Kind to Everyone (Chapter 27)
From the dry-cleaning clerk to the fast food server, say, “Hello.” Practice being interested in people until you really are. As C. S. Lewis once wrote: “There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal.” Learn to value everyone you come into contact with and not just those who can help you.


Thanks to all you for your feedback.
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Hmm...being kind to and valuing everyone is something I've been learning about lately. Things work so much better when we look for what everyone has to offer, instead of focusing on what they need. If you're interested you might check out the post on my blog about New Years Resolutions. melsmixedmoss.blogspot.com

Posted 1/3/2006 12:07 PM by mixed_moss - reply

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this is incredible stuff! I feel like I've just been given a little treasure chest. Looking forward to the next section! Thanks. L.
Posted 1/3/2006 6:59 PM by Liisa96 - reply

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mixed_moss,

enjoyed reading your thots.
sounds like you're head the right direction.
Posted 1/4/2006 2:20 PM by ocmartinez - reply

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liisa96 (i know...two 'i's),

hey thanks for the kind remarks.
good to see you here.
Posted 1/4/2006 2:21 PM by ocmartinez - reply

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Good stuff, Octavio. Didn't know all this was included in Hugh's book! Wish I had known it a few years earlier, some of this advice would have saved me a lot of heartache and hassle, and appropriately encouraged people (i.e. the "drop a note to folks who helped you get where you are" bit). I FEEL gratitude very strongly. Only recently did I learn I must EXPRESS it in ways other than f2f... especially when I hardly ever see the other person.
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nicolasnelson,

i feel you.
as i have said...youth is wasted on the young.
Posted 1/4/2006 5:25 PM by ocmartinez - reply

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Oooo. I like the idea of keeping notecards with you. This morning I went to the postoffice to mail my application for CA teaching credentials and I even bought a whole sheet of stamps. I then saw the sign on the door that they are all changing in 4 days. I should have got the hint when my bill was $6.66.
Posted 1/4/2006 6:30 PM by stinkowoman - reply

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Hi there, Octavio.

I've run a lively path. Even in my youth I knew and practiced some of Hugh's recommendations, but it didn't click until other things happened - most of them resulting from brokenness. That's what seemed to unlock the genuine understanding and practice. In otherwords, I think the heartache and hassle is a necessary evil to overcome.

Have you read Napoleon Hill's stuff? Or O.S Marden?

I'd be curious to know if we worked on the same campaign...
Posted 1/4/2006 9:19 PM by SallySchilling - reply

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Great stuff... thanks for summarizing all of these good pointers.
Posted 1/4/2006 9:40 PM by allenarnn - reply

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lori,

you know...i have had folks tell me how much a short note I wrote and sent, meant to them, years after I sent it.
a couple said, they kept the card.
for a few bucks, you can do a lot of good.
Posted 1/4/2006 11:41 PM by ocmartinez - reply

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sally,

good to see you again.
well maybe we did...bush 41.
and yes I read some nap hill...years ago.
Posted 1/4/2006 11:45 PM by ocmartinez - reply

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allenarnn,

thanks for the comments.
BTW, how are you doing?
any changes coming into your life?
Posted 1/4/2006 11:46 PM by ocmartinez - reply

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Speaking of thank-yous...

I'm learning a lot about working with volunteers and donors at my new job. The other day I learned that, according to experts, you are supposed to thank people seven times each time they make a donation or volunteer their time. And they can't all be verbal thank-yous, either. Expressing appreciation is certainly vital, isn't it?

-Mel

Posted 1/5/2006 6:33 AM by mixed_moss - reply

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mixed_moss,

regarding thanking volunteers and donors seven times, here's something i thought about...
how often do we thank the volunteers in our spiritual communities?

if any of you are pastors, church planters or oversee a group of volunteers, are you sincerely thanking them for the free work they do?
certainly, if we want people to be grateful, then as leaders we should model the behavior.
Posted 1/5/2006 7:36 AM by ocmartinez - reply

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Octavio,

While I lived in California:
Goldwater '64 ;) (walked precincts with my mom)
Reagan '80

In Illinois:
George W. 2000 (but was out of commission for the '04)

Lori Mc, isn't the Holy Spirit a great common denominator!?!
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Testing out a new profile pic...what do you think? Like it? I'm taking a poll.
Posted 1/5/2006 3:29 PM by mixed_moss - reply

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mixed_moss,

great smile.
very pretty...quit teasing and show us the full face.
;~)
Posted 1/5/2006 3:50 PM by ocmartinez - reply

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The real me...lol. And I can only suppose that to be truer than even I realize.

How could I tease when you've already seen me? Lori sent you a picture on your phone just before Christmas.

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Posted 1/6/2006 12:14 AM by ilumina - reply

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"ministers have zero credibility in discussions of public policy"

Hmmm.  That's a pretty wide-sweeping conclusion.  I didn't realize you knew all pastors in all political climates everywhere!  ;)

Perhaps this is just another case I'm running into where things that are generally (emphasis on generally) true elsewhere seem foreign in my experience of what I'm starting to call "the Winnipeg anomaly".

I shared with you when I was in LA about the atypical unity that many church leaders - across many denominational and philosophical lines - experience in Winnipeg.  This has included a political voice.  Don't think american fundamentalist right wing conservative political.  Think careful, prayerful, humble yet strong, respectful but firm, followers of Jesus political.  Some of these church leaders have run for political office.  Some have testified before federal government committees in Ottawa.  Some were recently granted unprecedented access to all 3 major national political parties to present at the highest levels the politcal concerns of christian young adults in our province.  At local, provincial and federal levels of government our experience has been more often one of favour and help rather than bureaucracy and red tape.  If that doesn't bake your noodle enough...  our church has been given government grants on various occassions to expand our ministries to the community.

I know I've mentioned this before... A few years back a group of Winnipeg pastors were praying for our city.  From different denominations, philosophies and "bents"... they felt unified in a conviction to approach a certain man to ask him to run for mayor of our city.  This man graciously agreed to consider their request.  Shortly after he announced his candidacy for mayor and won the election.  Last year he chaired the press conference for Love Winnipeg, an initiative that saw 66 churches and 5000 believers work together for two weeks to show Winnipeg that God loves them through practical acts of kindness and service.  Did I mention this man, our Mayor, is not a follower of Christ?  Can you imagine a group of pastors from very diverse church traditions agreeing on a christian for mayor... never mind a non-christian!?!

Not sure if this is on the radar at all in the states, but we in Canada are in the throes of a federal election right now.  Our pastor decided (for the first time since he became a pastor 17 years ago) to preach a series on God and politics.  He decided as part of each Sunday service he would invite each of the main candidates in our church's area to be interviewed as part of our series.  Politicians speaking in church on Sunday morning.  Risky for them.  Risky for us.  But worth the risk.  2 out of three responded to the invite within an hour, the third took a bit longer because she had to rearrange her schedule to make it work.  Why would politicians, from left wing to center to right wing, rush to a venue that politicians would usually want to avoid like the plague?  One word.  Credibility.

Welcome to Winnipeg.

Greg

"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." ~Gandhi

"Genuine politics -- even politics worthy of the name -- the only politics I am willing to devote myself to -- is simply a matter of serving those around us: serving the community and serving those who will come after us.  It's deepest roots are moral because it is a responsibility expressed through action, to and for the whole."  ~Vaclav Havel

Posted 1/17/2006 2:50 PM by GreggyD - reply

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gregg,

good evening.

while i don't know all the ministers in every political climate, it is a safe bet that not one pastor here in the states is asked thier opinion or input at the federal or state level. it does seem that winnipeg may be an anomaly. here, down south, pastors have zero credibility in regards to public policy. we have falwell, robertson and many others to thank for this.

so until or IF this perception ever changes, pastors have no business attempting to speak on public policy issues...they should focus there attention and energy on their churches. pastor or politcal player...here, they cannot be both.

nor should they try.
Posted 1/19/2006 9:32 PM by ocmartinez - reply


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